Mars: 5 July 2003

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How many frames should be used from a captured webcam AVI?

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Date: 5 July 2003 Telescope: 10 inch SCT AVI: 1/30 sec for 300 seconds at 15 fps
Time: 03:20 am (GMT + 2h00) Web cam: Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 Processing: Various nr. of frames selected
Observatory: Hartbeespoort Magnification: 2x Meade Barlow Software: K3CCDTools and Photoshop

From left to right: The highest quality (in K3CCDTools) 100, 500 and 1000 frames were stacked.

Observations:

Plausible conclusion: Only the first few (100 or so) frames in the captured AVI were of good quality. When creating a picture by stacking the remaining lower quality frames as well, these frames drags the quality of the final stacked picture down.

So how does this help in creating good quality stacked pictures?

Based on what I learned here, I now understand the following:

Adding MANY lower quality AVI frames will NEVER result in a higher quality result. Each additionally added lower quality frame only messes up the summary results of the other frames a little bit more. Lower quality frames cannot 'generate' missing picture quality. Therefore, up to a point, the lower in quality an AVI is, the less frames you use, the better.

The best number of frames to use from a low quality AVI is zero !


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Date: 5 July 2003 Telescope: 10 inch SCT AVI: 1/30 sec for 30 seconds at 15 fps
Time: 03:30 am to 03:32 (GMT + 2h00) Web cam: Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 Processing: Top 100 frames selected
Observatory: Hartbeespoort Magnification: 2x Meade Barlow Software: K3CCDTools and Photoshop

From left to right the first 3 pictures were created from AVIs that were captured with 20, 30 and 40 percent gain respectively.

The first 3 stacked pictures clearly show that (moderately) higher gain results in getting higher quality pictures. Up until this test, I always captured AVIs with the least gain possible. I thought higher gain meant more dark frame-type noise - overwhelming the quality of a picture. I was wrong.

So from now onward I will capture my AVIs with more gain (where needed) without hesitation.

Obviously, several gain percentage comparison tests will be done during July 2003. Results will be available on this website.


At what frame rate should I capture astrophotgraphy AVIs?

Date: 5 July 2003 Telescope: 10 inch SCT AVI: 1/30 sec for various seconds at various fps
Time: 03:50 am to 03:56 (GMT + 2h00) Web cam: Logitech Quickcam Pro 4000 Processing: Top 100 frames selected
Observatory: Hartbeespoort Magnification: 2x Meade Barlow Software: K3CCDTools and Photoshop

From left to right the frame rates were: 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25 frames per second.

Cleary higher frame rates result in lower quality stacked pictures.

From now on I will only capture AVIs using 5 frames per second.

While testing various webcam camera settings I might use 15 fps - to get as many different AVIs captured in the shortest possible time.


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